Uncommonlaw words are imperative

original source: 008

My transcribe of karl lentz uncommonlaw talkshoe 008.

I only transcribe what I believe relevant, I find this a much faster way to learn, take down notes and revise.

My following notes cover: require a trial not a hearing, define the rules or they will, claims will be determined by the jury, notice court decorum, your claim/orders/notices speak for themselves, moving my claim, is that what you believe, is that what you wish, the plaintiff must appear.


See they are calling it a hearing.

The words are imperative that you use, they try to say that hearing and trial is the same thing, it’s not even close. So, when they say it’s a hearing, you want a trial, but they are saying it’s a hearing so whose hearing is this? Because in common law it’s a trial, and for a hearing be setup for say a preliminary hearing, you can have preliminary hearings that’s fine in common law, let’s see if we can hash this out before the trial. But you are saying you want the return of your property

When they create a hearing, they define the rules.

You require a trial.

At this building, at this court room…

At this time, at this hearing, there is going to be all offers or counter offers or all claims to properties 1, 2, 3, 4 are to be tendered to said court (so you don’t need to be repeating the name of your court) at this time.

So, all offers or any interest or claims in property 1,2,3,4 are to be tendered and delivered upon said court on that date, we will accept claims from 9am till 10am. All claims that are properly delivered we will set a trial date a week from today and we will have a trial by jury in which the claims will be determined by the jury for the final determination of all claims.

Say if no claims come by 10am today the magistrate will record through the clerks office that no claim has came before court and that the property is to be returned to the Earnest Court at 10:01am.

Now the only other thing that you can do is you give notice, now you make a separate notice, a notice to court decorum. Say I am the prosecutor of this matter, the Earnest Court will be prosecuting your claim in this venue at 9am, the Earnest’s will take the left desk and any claimants or counter claimants or claimants to be will sit on the right hand desk.

So what you’re basically saying is that the prosecutor and the defendant, and anyone else who wants to make a claim come forward.

So, what they are going to try and do is say that you’re the defendant so you sit on the left table, his the prosecutor he always sits on the right.

At this point I’m prosecuting this claim, honestly I don’t care where I sit but I’m telling you right now as long as all parties know here in this venue at this time it is the Lentz Court and I’m moving this claim. You guys got one hour to get all the claims before me, presented to me and it’s done.

So if the judge is trying to do a hearing, if his starting to ask questions you have to try to say to him, sir what are you doing? I object. Are you making a claim for my child? No. Then why are the people to my right not saying anything? Why are they not telling me they have a claim for my kid? Are they thinking you’re judging this matter? They say well this is a habeas corpus hearing. Umm this is a hearing for the return of my property. Well I thought we already discussed this, this is a habeas corpus hearing. Honestly sir what rules are we working under? Well if you don’t know what rules are habeas corpus then I advise you get an attorney to appear here and advise you. That’s what his going to do to you.

So you have to get the rules before the court, the Earnest Court is making all claims. This is not a habeas corpus hearing, this is a return of property hearing. Today we are accepting all claims with a vested interest in the property. Any interest in the property or any claims to the property let it be brought forth or forever hold your peace.

The thing is you have to give the court notice of the rules you are moving under and hand it to the court clerk, give her two copies, one for whoever is sitting in the black robe that day and the other side. That way everyone knows the rules they will be walking into when they come tomorrow.

So just because you’re sitting on the state side doesn’t mean I’m defending anything, I’m not guilty of nothing. But they will try and put you on the defendant box, but when they see you take over the prosecutor box they will get a little upset.

You could actually do that in open court, you say would you folks have a problem switching tables? Because honestly we are the ones prosecuting this claim.

Just let the fact be known that I’m the prosecutor of this claim, and no matter where I’m sitting don’t think for one second I have relinquished the rules and the procedure in which this court is moving.

Your claim speaks for itself, your orders speak for itself, and your notices speak for themselves. So you’ve given them notice, so if somebody says something to you say umm didn’t you get the notice we gave to you in court yesterday? We gave to the court clerk lady yesterday? Yeah, didn’t you get a copy of the notice? What are you folks doing? Well they’re presenting their claims to me and I’m going to determine their claims. I’m like no, they make their statements and claims to me! Do they have any right, what are they going to present to me?

Always refer to him as David, not crown council etc.

Say David, do you have a claim that you would like to present to the Earnest Court today? Well I’m not even talking to you I’m talking to this guy up here. Oh his going to do it and that’s lovely! Because that’s showing that he has no claim to present to your court. So as long as you move under the common law, it’s supposed to be offers moving back and forth between you and him. This is like a preliminary hearing before a trial. Oh lovely it’s prima facia evidence that you have no claim to present to the Earnest court today, is that true? Well I don’t. Well there you go, you say to the magistrate will give another 55mins for anybody else to appear and make their claim for property 1,2,3 and 4. You people like to refer to them as children, that’s your beliefs that’s fine.

That’s not their beliefs, they maintain a position, see whenever asked by the two dimensional world you maintain a position, when you’re a man you have a belief. If you want to trick the council, if you want to trick David, you say is that what you believe? Ho Ho! That keeps him in common law. If you say do you maintain that position David? Well then you’re saying you recognize him as the attorney for the state or whatever.

So, is social services going to make an appearance today and make their claim? Well no I’m going to make their claims. Okay, well then you’re going to make their claims and there going to appear at trial so I can cross examine them? Ugh there is going to be no one to cross examine. What are you trying to commit barratry right here? Are you trying to interfere with the process of Justice here? Are you making or submitting a false claim? Because you know that if nobody is going to come forth and testify under oath or affirmation that what they say is true, how do you propose or what would be the purpose of having a trial a week from now, what would be the reason? Will your client appear or won’t he appear? See that’s the whole thing with common law, they have to appear to make their claim.

An attorney is limited like you have no idea, there are certain things they can or cannot say. That’s one thing that they definitely cannot say, that the property is to be transferred over to another without that person being there.

How did you figure that person really wants that, 300 elephants in their backyard? Well! just trust me his got a pretty good sized backyard, he can hold 300 elephants. Before we deliver these 300 elephants, don’t you believe it would be a good idea he make his wishes chronic that it’s true.

If you want to talk about court decorum, like I said what I always do to get around this silly nonsense just appear arrogant; not standing, or sitting when the judge walks in or walks out or all this other nonsense. What I do when I’m at court playing times like that, is that when the judge walks in, they say all raise, I go down to the floor and start tying my shoe laces or I dropped pencil or I have a medical malady my legs goofy, I’m sorry are we ready?

Make sure you have the rules of court in, you must establish the rules of court.

Did you ever see me sit at anytime? No. I’ve always held my standing in common law haven’t I? I’ve addressed you folks as a man, I’m a man and I’ve always referred to you as Bob or Sue, I’ve never referred to you by your colorful clothing, colorful acts of being a judge, I’ve always held you under full liability acting as a man at all times, making a claim you’re trying to hurt me, you’re trying to hurt another man.

This David, man, this council, is just another man trying to hurt you. He knows full good and well that those children are yours and there’s no doubt in his mind he would not like someone else doing to him what his trying to do you. Regardless what this piece of paper says, that he has the right to hurt you, he knows in his heart what his doing is wrong. Now, he can convince himself in his mind, that it’s just lovely and wonderful what his doing to you. But deep down his still a man and he still can’t hurt you, that’s the universal belief that one man can’t hurt another man. I don’t care what your piece of paper says, I don’t care what that man in the black robe tells you what to do, I don’t care what your ministers agenda is today cause tomorrow they are going to change their agenda and their rules are going to be 180 degrees opposite. So everything you’ve done today is going to be deemed wrong. So you’ve been doing all wrong all these years, now they’ve came up with a new proposal and now they going to switch the codes around and everything in the past is going to be…No! I only operate one way.

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